iPhone 3G review

The wireless industry is a notoriously tough nut to crack, and it's become pretty clear that the first iPhone wasn't about total domination so much as priming the market and making a good first impression with some very dissatisfied cellphone users. With the iPhone 3G, though, Apple's playing for keeps. Not only is this iPhone's Exchange enterprise support aiming straight for the heart of the business market, but the long-awaited 3rd party application support and App Store means it's no longer just a device, but a viable computing platform. And its 3G network compatibility finally makes the iPhone welcome the world over, especially after Cupertino decided to ditch its non-traditional carrier partnerships in favor of dropping the handset price dramatically. $200? We're still a little stunned.
So now that Apple finally stands poised for an all out war on cellphone-makers everywhere, will the iPhone 3G stand up to the competition -- and higher expectations than ever? Read on for our full review.
Update: Updated with more tests from our battery, MobileMe, and enterprise supplemental.
Gallery: iPhone 3G review - hardware

No one will have any trouble recognizing the new device from its face -- it's essentially identical to the original iPhone. Thankfully, the bright, high quality, high resolution 480 x 320 3.5-inch display that's just so easy to love, hasn't been changed a bit. Unfortunately, it's still every bit as much a magnet for smudges and fingerprints -- in fact, even more so now that the rear of the device has dropped its chic matte aluminum in favor of black (or white, optional on the 16GB model) plastic. Hey, at least now it's more symmetrical.
The move to plastic seemed almost inevitable now that the iPhone has so many radios, frequencies, and antenna needs (GSM, EDGE, HSDPA, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS), but while we do prefer the original aluminum, the plastic does feel pretty solid and not at all flimsy, which is more than we can say for a hell of a lot of handsets. There's no doubt about the fact that we'd have preferred a matte or soft-touch finish to the glossy plastic, but that's all a matter of taste.


One thing Apple was keen to talk up is the vastly improved call quality of the iPhone 3G. Those in the know understand that 3G call quality is often better than regular GSM -- but it turns out Apple made a huge improvement on both sides. iPhone 3G calls made over 3G and GSM both sounded significantly better than calls made on the original iPhone. If you're upgrading your device iPhone you may not necessarily notice it, but on a side by side it was pretty obvious.
Of course, call quality most often depends on coverage, and coverage varies between 3G and GSM networks depending on where you are. 3G calling also requires more battery power. Where are we going with this? Well, despite many of the painstaking measures Apple's taken to preserve battery power, the iPhone 3G doesn't do any real time signal detection to help determine whether you currently have better 3G or GSM voice coverage. If you suspect you might get better coverage either on or off 3G, it's up to you to dig down through a few settings menus to flip the switch. Not a deal breaker by any means, but it'd make for a welcome fix.
Apple's numbers on the iPhone 3G's battery life peg it at 10 / 5 hours talk on GSM / 3G (respectively), 5 hours 3G data, 6 hours WiFi, 24 hours music and 7 hours video. Pretty much everything we've found in our testing jibes with Apple's claims, if not exceeds them. (Our early results testing video early on skewed low because we had mistakenly left on push and fetch data, which dropped the battery life by almost 25%. After re-testing, they're back up to spec.)
All our tests were conducted with 3G on, WiFi on (not connected), Bluetooth off, no data fetching enabled (unless specified otherwise). Media tested with stock headphones, medium volume, and medium screen brightness, auto-brightness disabled.
- Music (continuous playback, large library, occasionally turning on screen): 31h 23m
- Video (continuous playback, no push/fetch data): 7h 5m
- Video (continuous playback, with push and 15 minute fetch data): 5h 24m
- Daily data use (browsing, email, and GPS / maps): ~6h 30m
There have been a number of other fixes to better the device as well. For example, the phone now has two proximity sensors to better detect when it's held to your ear. We also found that while the camera was essentially identical, we were getting images that were ever so slightly sharper and crisper than the original iPhone on 1.1.4 (check it out below). Still, knowing that HTC's Touch Diamond -- which features a 3.2 megapixel sensor and mechanical autofocus -- could pack such a great camera in an even smaller form factor than the iPhone's left us pining for something a bit more than the same 2 megapixels from the first time around.
Gallery: iPhone 3G review - camera test
What we're probably the most excited about, though, is that two of our biggest hardware-related gripes from the original device have finally been addressed: first, the headphone jack is now flush, which means any standard (3.5mm) headphones will work in the iPhone without the need for an adapter. The new jack has a solid, confidence-inspiring feel that won't leave you worrying about damaging the device or your headphones. To this day we still have no clue why Apple pushed the jack in -- it was kind of funny hearing Steve pitch the flush jack as a feature at WWDC. It's the simple things, you know?Second, the speaker volume has been jacked up significantly, giving your calls (or music) a much more workable volume level if you're not blessed with superhuman hearing. It's not the loudest speaker we've ever heard on a device, and unlike many Nokia Nseries phones, it's still mono. But it's definitely a step up compared to the first iPhone, which was not only quiet, but also seemed to distort at much lower volumes.
Speed and location
At the end of the day, it's the 3G data that's important enough to become part of the new iPhone's namesake. Speed testing the iPhone 3G hasn't been disappointing in the slightest. We've seen speeds between 300 - 500Kbps in the US (roughly equivalent of other HSDPA devices we've tested), and in networks abroad where the data rates are even faster, we've gotten consistent data rates of over 700-800Kbps. It's pretty clear the iPhone 3G isn't hitting hardware limits right now, so much of what you can prepare to see in terms of speed in the US will depend directly on reception with AT&T's network -- which doesn't have the most outstanding reputation, nor the broadest 3G rollout.
Interestingly, in one test, our iPhone 3G had worse reception on AT&T than a Nokia N78, yet managed speeds of over 100Kbps faster. So ultimately, where 3G coverage is decent, you should be seeing speeds that will no longer have you tearing your eyes out, as was so often the case with little mister sometimes-takes-minutes-to-load-a-small-page first-gen iPhone.
GPS acquisition has also been surprisingly fast for a cellphone. AGPS devices use traditional GPS receivers, but help speed up location acquisition and accuracy by using cellphone towers to triangulate. As far as we know, the iPhone 3G is the only device out right now that not only has AGPS, but takes advantage of Skyhook's proprietary WiFi-based location system, giving it a total of three ways to help find where you're at. We were able to acquire GPS in as little as a second or two, although depending on your location and reception, you might see that take longer. It's important to note, though, that the iPhone's was clearly intended to be a location-aware smartphone -- not a dedicated GPS device. There's a big difference.That said, there's an enormous amount of interest by people hoping they can add one more to the pile of devices their iPhone has taken over for. It's pretty clear why people might want the iPhone 3G to replace their car's dedicated GPS nav, too. It's not just a location-aware device with a large, bright screen -- it's also connected (with service you're already paying for), thus able to get traffic updates, routing information, and so on. The Google Maps app doesn't provide turn by turn route guidance, though, so while it does provide directions, you can only use it as a stand-in -- and not as a full replacement -- for a proper GPS device. This problem might be solved later by some intrepid 3rd party developer (like, say, TomTom or Telenav), but there's been some confusion as to whether this might actually happen, and what Apple's official stance on GPS nav actually is. And even if this GPS software does eventually come out, the speaker on the iPhone 3G simply won't be loud enough to be heard over most road noise, so you'd also have to make use of a line-out. In other words, don't sell your GPS device just yet, okay?
Gallery: iPhone 3G review - software
The software
Anyone that's used the original iPhone knows what a delight the device can be to use -- except when using the old mail app -- but the hardware is only one part of that. An accurate capacitive touchscreen and well optimized mobile processors form the basis of that experience, but the iPhone continues to derives its real power in usability. The iPhone 3G and the second release of mobile OS X have given the device numerous useful new features while keeping in line with expectations that they not slow down the experience, nor overwhelm new or experienced users. So far, so good.

Although the App Store isn't open to any developer, it's worth noting that Apple's implementation wrests all control from its carrier partners, which typically expect 3rd party applications to be either side-loaded (i.e. more for the power user set), or simply want complete control of sales through their own walled garden. It's easy to argue that the App Store just trades one walled garden for another, but what the hell, we'll happily take Apple's over AT&T's.
The applications themselves vary in price, and are purchased after you've logged in with your iTunes account. (Yeah, you'll need one even if you're only downloading free programs.) Apps under 10MB download over the air, and are immediately deposited in your first available slot, where they can be moved (or removed) as you see fit. As new versions of the apps become available, the App Store notifies you of updates and manages the downloads. Yes, it's a new kind of walled garden, but the App Store is also a category-redefining experience. We've already heard a radically open version will be making its way to Android, and we hope it will eventually find its way to platforms like Windows Mobile and Symbian as well.
Another new addition is character recognition support for logographic-based languages, such as Traditional Chinese, as well as localized keyboards for nearly two dozen languages and markets worldwide. But the touchscreen keyboard can still be a major sticking point for some -- ourselves enthusiastically included -- and Apple hasn't given any more of its default programs (like SMS) the increased ease of typing that comes with using the keyboard in landscape mode. There's simply no question that in terms of efficiency, on an iPhone we're nowhere close to where we can get on a spacious (or even not so spacious) QWERTY keypad. To their credit, though, Apple's made a few tweaks over the last year that have made typing a little faster and easier (like letting you pre-type the next letter before your first finger has lifted). But the fact is this defining feature of the iPhone remains one of its biggest drawbacks.

Another thing we (and a lot of people noticed) is that MobileMe on the desktop is faux-push -- it only gets updates every 15 minutes because it's actually pulling them, unlike the iPhone's proper push. (We're, like, totally sure someone's going to sue.) You can edit a certain .pref file (details here) to make it fetch every minute -- but fetching every minute isn't push, now is it? Apple has since acknowledged this issue (among others). We also noticed on the phone that if you have synced MobileMe calendars, your calendar subscriptions (like, say, shared iCal or Gcal or what have you) are disabled.
All in all, as of the time of this writing, our feeling is that MobileMe still feels like it's in beta -- when it's up -- and is generally falling way short of what was promised by Apple. We believe they're earnest when they say they're trying to get it all up and running to fulfill their commitments, but for the time being we think it's best to steer clear until they work out the kinks.
On the other hand, we found the Exchange support to be simple enough to set up and use that you may not have to bug your IT dude. Some hardcore enterprise users will miss the full Exchange suite, including synced notes and tasks, but the core functionality (email, calendar, contacts) work very well, and if you need to take your iPhone into the locked-down office, we tested and confirmed that it will play fine with your company's WPA Enterprise / 802.1x with PEAP network. But our biggest gripe with Exchange isn't small: the system is unable to let enterprise contacts and calendars coexist on the same device with personal contacts and calendars. (Personal and corp email get along just fine, though.)
When you turn on Exchange-synced contacts and calendars, you're notified that it's a one or the other kind of a situation, and your personal data will be removed from the phone. Though that data isn't purged from your host machine, of course, you do immediately lose the ability to change contact or calendar sync settings. This effectively means that your device can only serve as an enterprise device OR a personal device, but not both at once. Kind of defeats the purpose of convincing your boss to get you an iPhone in the first place, you know? Can't all our calendars and contact lists just play together on the same device? We think they can (and should).
Some other new and noteworthy features:
- As mentioned, Google Maps now shows a pinging blue locator that can track your movement. As of right now there's no way to convert this to KML or anything usable for geocaching.
- The camera will also now ask you permission to use GPS to geotag photos with your current location. Once you grant that permission, it will add the necessary standard EXIF data to your photos. Trés useful, but you can't refer back to those geotags to bring up a location in Google Maps.
- Side note: there's now an option to reset location notifications, if you accidentally granted permission to an app you don't want knowing where you are.
- The iPhone can now read PowerPoint, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote documents. It's still incapable of editing or creating new documents, however, and outside of sending yourself these files via email, there's no accessible file storage.
- You can now save images from the web to your camera roll by tapping and holding.
- The calculator goes into scientific mode when the device is tilted sideways.
- Entering passwords is a little easier -- the last character you entered is temporarily shown at the end of the string. Keeps things safe but makes sure you know if you mistyped.
- One of the very first things we ever requested the iPhone see fixed is finally fixed: calendar colors are now supported, meaning you can finally visually tell your appointments apart based on calendar.
- You can now control email, contact, and calendar fetching from system settings, giving you granular control over push and pull data on your various accounts.
- You can also enable parental controls if you got the device for your kids. Or you just want to curb temptation to constantly watch Charlie the Unicorn on YouTube or buy Lil Wayne tracks on the WiFi Store, weirdo.
- Screen captures can be taken by holding home, then pressing sleep. They're dropped in the camera roll.
- Doing a hard reset now fully purges the device's memory, thereby making it much more difficult to recover the kind of data you don't want someone else recovering. (More on that here.)
- Easily-replaceable battery -- especially being that 3G is much more demanding on battery power than EDGE data. We haven't popped the back off, but even if replacing the battery were as simple as unscrewing the two screws at the bottom (and it's not), that's still not what we'd call easily replaceable.
- Copy / paste. As if we even needed to mention this.
- MMS. Ditto.
- Expandable memory still isn't in the cards (har). 8 and 16GB capacities are very decent, but the ability to go further with microSDHC would be welcomed by many. As would be a 32GB model.
- A2DP (stereo Bluetooth). If this was an unlikely addition before, it's all but written off now. A2DP is a notorious battery hog on devices like cellphones, and the iPhone is already pushing the limits on power conservation and efficiency. It pains us to say it, but we just don't see A2DP happening any time soon.
- Push Gmail. Hey, if Helio can have it on the Ocean, and Samsung on the Instinct, why is Apple stuck with only push Yahoo mail?
- Service-independent device to machine wireless syncing. Exchange and MobileMe are nice, but even nicer would be a way to easily sync data directly to your machine without having to pay or have some kind of service.
- Tethered data. Hey, you're paying $30 a month for data (likely more if you're using it outside the US), your laptop should be able to use some of it too.
- No way to open a link in a new tab in mobile Safari. We also wish the browser was still a bit better about caching data, too -- it'd be nice not to have to do so many reloads when switching between tabs or moving back and forward through history.
- Folder management
- Opening links in email to documents stored on Sharepoint
- Task sync
- Setting an out of office autoreply
- Creating meeting invitations
- Flagging messages for followup
If you're an avid Symbian, BlackBerry, or Windows Mobile / Exchange user, chances are you might think the iPhone 3G is Apple playing catch-up -- and you're not wrong. 3G, GPS, third party apps, enterprise messaging, these are all old hat. But even the would-be iPhone killers being churned out weekly haven't yet found a way to counter the iPhone's usability and seamless integration of service and software, desktop and mobile, and media and internet.
There are always things that could be improved, features to be added, fixes that should be applied -- but from first to second gen, from year one to year two, Apple has proven itself a relentless upstart in the mobile space, and is showing no signs of slowing down. All those new features give the iPhone even more appeal than ever, but the price is what really seals the deal.
For our money, you're going to have a hard time finding a better device for two hundred bucks -- or maybe even for any price. But that doesn't mean you ought to toss your original iPhone, either. With the release of iPhone 2.0, Apple's given early adopters every possible new feature for free, meaning the iPhone 3G's biggest roadblock to adoption in the US may be its still very worthy predecessor. But as Steve says, "If anybody is going to cannibalize us, I want it to be us." As for the rest of the world? Things are about to get interesting.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 7)
Jeffrey @ Jul 11th 2008 7:50AM
lol, iphone
Mile @ Jul 11th 2008 8:54AM
Will iTunes run on ViSTA yet?
Kyrra @ Jul 11th 2008 9:24AM
@Mile: Well, you're just trolling, but I'll answer you anyways.
I've been running iTunes on my Vista 64 computer for 6 months (since SP1 hit the streets) and have not had an issue.
jimmy @ Jul 11th 2008 10:08AM
holy shit, can't most of these iphone posts be put on TUAW ?!?!?!?!111/// christ almighty this is getting rigoddamndiculous
Flashpoint @ Jul 11th 2008 10:52AM
THE ONLY NEW FEATURE the iphone3g holds is the ability to be used as a GPS locator. Every other improvement is due to the 2.0OS which is available for both the original iphone and the ipod touch.
My only question is WHEN WILL IT GET HACKED AND UNLOCKED.
Marcus @ Jul 11th 2008 10:54AM
Sorry for comment abuse, but does anyone know where I can get a White version in the UK? Both O2 and CarphoneWarehouse are only stocking the black version.
Is the White version even available anywhere in the world?
Quix @ Jul 11th 2008 11:00AM
Uh oh, Apple-related story. UNLEASH THE TROLLS!
Get a life, juvenile lamers. Don't like? Don't read!
Aaron Wanker @ Jul 11th 2008 3:03PM
@Quix
The pot calling the kettle black? I think so.
cboy007 @ Jul 11th 2008 3:19PM
@Kyrra - actually, i have the same problem as Mile. whenever i install itunes on my computer (hp m7750n - vista 32-bit), it basically disables my cd/dvd drive. there are other people that have this problem. i went through everything - reinstalling drivers and such. nothing worked. then i uninstalled itunes and it suddenly worked again. i confirmed this by reinstalling itunes and then uninstalling again.
granted, this was about half a year ago, so i dont know if it's still a problem. but anyway now i'm quite happy with my zune.
Steffen Jobbs @ Jul 11th 2008 3:29PM
Cellular communications - the Final Frontier. These are the exploits of the handset iPhone 3G. Its five-year mission: To explore strange new countries. To seek out new smartphone users and new civilizations. To boldly go where no smartphone has gone before.
All hail Apple and the mighty iPhone. Destined to change life on the planet as we know it. No more hunger, poverty, sickness or war. One world firmly united under iTunes. The Apple Utopian Society henceforth known as iEarth.
skyler.conklin @ Jul 11th 2008 4:16PM
Juice >> "So this is no longer the wife's phone? This is the mans phone? I still think it's ghey to pinch my fingers on my phone. Gimme a Touch Diamond."
You seriously have some major security issues with your manhood don't you... are you confused about your orientation, and worried this might push you over the edge? I think it's ghey that you're willing to waste your money on the irrelevant Touch Diamond.
bob sakamano @ Jul 15th 2008 10:41AM
i read somewhere that it said the 3g iphone doesnt support exchange AND gmail AND an aol email account setup at the same time... is this true?
Richard @ Jul 11th 2008 7:54AM
Why does everyone still get excited about the $200 price (especially Engadget). This thing is MORE expensive to own than the old iPhone, by a significant margin. Owning this thing a few years at AT&T's US prices costs an arm and a leg, far outweighing the lower initial acquisition cost...
Ryan Block @ Jul 11th 2008 7:55AM
If you were on AT&T with another smartphone (say, an 8525), you'd be paying the same or higher rate on data. It's more than the previous iPhone, but on par with other devices. It still sucks, but hey, at least it's not a Rogers plan.
Charbax @ Jul 11th 2008 7:57AM
Yup, most countries launching the iPhone 3G, it actually costs something like $2500 over the two year contract.
JJV @ Jul 11th 2008 8:02AM
i would prefer sans plan
for people who travel around the world, the phone still being locked is stupid. i dont care whether it launches in 70 different countries that doesnt help me if i travel between them and have separate sim cards for each country i travel to.
bad move apple
JJV @ Jul 11th 2008 8:08AM
My other comment didnt get published for some reason but w/e
Apple shouldnt have locked this to carriers and made us sign up in store because people who travel a lot and have many sim cards for many countries couldnt care less if this is launching in 70 countries
that doesnt help someone who is going to have to pay exorbitant roaming fees because of this.
I dont want to be locked into a 2 year contract and then have to pay extra because i have to travel and work in many countries.
Peter @ Jul 11th 2008 8:15AM
You can't just compare it to the previous version, you need to compare it to all similar devices. I'm coming to AT&T from Verizon, and getting a web-capable phone with a data plan would actually cost me a little more per month at Verizon.
wickedpheonix @ Jul 11th 2008 8:58AM
@ JJV
If you don't want one with a contract and you travel often, then buy the iPhone 3G in a country that requires that carriers sell unlocked phones when you're abroad- I think I remember seeing an article about Germany and France carriers putting up a fight over it with the 1st iPhone but eventually complied, you may end up paying 400-500 euro but it would be worth it for an iPhone IMO (at least if you don't have the original).
Paul Evans @ Jul 11th 2008 8:59AM
Can I just point out though, that this is an AT&T issue, not an Apple issue. I've upgraded from the original to the 3G on O2, and the contract is not going to cost me a penny more over the 18 month contract than the original did.
I'm £270 up!
Electromodo @ Jul 11th 2008 9:22AM
@ Paul Evans
This is actually an AT&T issue WITH iPhone. I previously upgraded from EDGE on one smartphone to 3G on a new smartphone with current AT&T plan, and they did not charge me more. Even the data plan stayed the same ($20, they do not have it any more for smartphones).
AT&T's policy is to charge $40 for unlimited data plans on the smartphones that have full QWERTY keyboard (like Blackberry or 8525). There were some smartphones without full keyboard and the plan was $20 for them. iPhone is, of course, special.
I did not have a problem with AT&T (or Cingular) regarding upgrades with other smartphones.
izim1 @ Jul 11th 2008 9:29AM
the damn things cost $40 more than the original over the 2-year contract. i'd hardly call that "a significant margin" or put "more" in capital letters in "MORE expensive". not to mention that it's pretty irrelevant since most of the mac fanboys wont have it that long since their god jobs will more than likely release yet another phone in about a year which they will then move on to.....
Kelmon @ Jul 11th 2008 10:39AM
"This thing is MORE expensive to own than the old iPhone, by a significant margin."
No it's not (at least in the US - I'm in Belgium and it's expensive here by any measurement). Money today is worth more than money tomorrow. Equally, paying money tomorrow is worth less than paying money today. This is schoolboy Finance 101 stuff. I'd much rather pay a small amount now and then pay an overall higher amount over the next 2-years.
Ysleiro @ Jul 11th 2008 2:00PM
I went to the ATT site and looked at the plans, and the cheapest you could get is:
100.00$ (70.00 voice + 30.00 data)
450 Anytime Minutes
5000 Nights and weekend minutes
120.00$ (90.00 voice + 30.00 data)
900 Anytime Minutes
Free Nights and Weekends
If you ask me this pricing is outrageous. Phone bills should be going down as time passes not up.
fara @ Jul 11th 2008 2:44PM
Here in Australia you can buy the iPhone unlocked from Optus, for $729, ($849 for the 16Gb) plus $80 call credits, plus $80 unlocking fee, and it's yours to use on any plan, pre or post paid on any network. Link to site here.
A bargain at half the price.
S1ay @ Jul 11th 2008 3:46PM
@Ysleiro
The $70 includes the data and voice it is not $100. Same with the Family plan.
ben @ Jul 11th 2008 3:52PM
"Money today is worth more than money tomorrow. Equally, paying money tomorrow is worth less than paying money today. This is schoolboy Finance 101 stuff."
You're begging to be sold something for 3 easy payments of $39.99.
dale_nx26 @ Jul 11th 2008 5:08PM
can someone explain to me why Apple just HAD to lock the iPhone to a carrier in the first place (without even subsidizing for the first iPhone)? I never understood this.
ak @ Jul 11th 2008 5:53PM
@Ysleiro "If you ask me this pricing is outrageous. Phone bills should be going down as time passes not up."
I guess you've failed to notice that 1) your phone does significantly more than you could have even imagined 5 years ago; 2) it (should) have primarily taken the place of your landline phone, so you really just have a cost shift/consolidation; and 3) if you havent noticed, voice pricing is coming DOWN with the launch of unlimited calling plans (6 months ago 4000 minutes would have been extremely expensive).
all the comments complaining about the more expensive data plans blow my mind. as ryan mentioned, they are simply on par now with all the other smart phones. beyond that, with 3G data the usage will go through the roof. you think AT&T is running a charity? it costs money to increase capacity and coverage...
mike @ Jul 12th 2008 1:30AM
@Richard
Cost of ownership for me is the same.
I pay $112/mo on two original iPhones. sold them both on ebay and they paid for my two new iPhone 3Gs entirely.
The only extra I pay is $20 for both ones to have the data boost from Edge to 3G and $10 for both phones to have 200 SMS messages each per month (i won't need more because we have AIM for free on our phones).
Factor in that I didn't get my corporate discount on the original plans but I do on the new phones and it comes out to still be $112/mo. with a basically two free phone upgrades.
Making people who can't think things through before commenting and sticking their foot in their mouth... priceless. I guess somethings money can't buy!
Charbax @ Jul 11th 2008 7:55AM
No DivX support.
Surur @ Jul 11th 2008 8:29AM
Opera Mobile 9.5 on Windows Mobile is a better browser than Safari Mobile, and does cut and paste and open links in new tabs.
Its on the Samsung Omnia, which is Divx certified.
Chirag @ Jul 11th 2008 10:53AM
Puh-lease. I've been using that for 4 months now. I've tried Safari too on the iPod Touch. Its eons ahead of Opera. What's the point of having tabs if it can't open most of the websites properly?
fat_black_duke @ Jul 11th 2008 11:35AM
[i]A2DP is a notorious battery hog on devices like cellphones[/i]
Say what? I've been using A2DP for over two years now with SE Walkman phone as well as my Blackberry and my batteries do absolutely fine. If Apple is so concerned about battery life, why were they happy to put WiFi on it (which is massively more battery-draining than Bluetooth, and pretty much useless on a 3G phone)?
Real reason: it would kill AirTunes.
Eric @ Jul 11th 2008 3:39PM
i'm with stupid. ^^^
Kris S. @ Jul 11th 2008 7:57AM
It's ridiculous how people wait hours, even days in line just to be the first ones to get a phone, anyways, they really aren't the first ones because there are 39,394 other "first ones".
odelay @ Jul 14th 2008 4:05PM
its ridiculous when people wait all night for concert tickets or football tickets.. or.. Its NO different.. they are all nuts..hehe.. J/K but really apples are tasty
patsy @ Jul 11th 2008 7:58AM
> It's hard to think of any other device that's enjoyed the level of exposure and hype that Apple found in the launch of the first iPhone.
It's even harder to think of a more willing participant in this charade than engadget. It would be completely missing the scale of things to say that you just drank the Kool-Aid. Nay, you brewed it yourselves, with home grown ingredients and fresh spring water that you hand carried in little clay jars from the mountains while walking beds of hot coal and battling dragons. But hey, let the mayhem ensue...
Ryan Block @ Jul 11th 2008 8:02AM
Are you done yet?
ybd @ Jul 11th 2008 8:34AM
I couldn't have said it better even if I tried.
patsy @ Jul 11th 2008 8:13AM
That's what we should all be asking you!
Bob @ Jul 11th 2008 8:15AM
You don't "brew" Kool-Aid. You only mix it with sugar and water.
patsy @ Jul 11th 2008 8:37AM
@Bob:
Yeah, but that doesn't lend itself very well to an over-the-top tirade, does it now?
Josh @ Jul 11th 2008 8:42AM
If you don't like the iPhone stuff, don't read it. There is even a "No Apple" and I believe even a "No iPhone" RSS feed available. Fact is that this will likely be the largest product release of 2008 (as it was in 2007). Engadget covers (omg wait for it)... GADGETS. It's in the name. Phones are gadgets. Apple is one of the largest gadget corporation in the world. Engadget, by the definition of it's blog topics, pretty much has to cover a release as extensively like this. All the blogs are. Go read the childish Gizmodo blog and tell me if they are doing anything different other than saying that everything iPhone related is "Breaking News" and "Exclusive".
If you don't like it, use the feeds or just ignore it. Don't complain.
patsy @ Jul 11th 2008 9:00AM
@Josh:
So I suppose if there are some things I also don't like about this country, I can just leave, too, right? Alas, I still choose to participate and be cynical and sarcastic, even though I realize that those two weapons are very scary to some people.
You know what? Even many of "us" Apple knockers don't dislike the iPhone--in fact, I think it's very, very cool, even though I'm a WM user. We mainly have a disdain for the way this site periodically turns into a one-trick pony. There are other very nerd-friendly things going on in the world right now. Check out the story about Boeing's freight blimp for example. How many comments? Six, one of them mine. So yes, I do read the rest of the stories and even participate, which in my book buys me the right to crash the iPhone lovefest in here and say "enough already" every once in a while.
natels @ Jul 11th 2008 9:14AM
patsy, when was the lats WinMo phone this big at launch? I, too, am a WinMo user and am staying that way for at least a while, I just never seen a phone get this much hype from the public, and Engadget caters to the public. Even the Diamond, which might be the sweetest phone I have ever seen, will not generate a 100th of the hype of this phone. It's sad yes, but Apple's marketing works.
axemt @ Jul 11th 2008 9:35AM
@ patsy
Patsy, let me quote @ Ryan Block (hey, nice reply btw, I didn't know we were still in high school)
"No clue why anyone sees the need to complain. Fine, we get it, some people don't care about the iPhone. And for you there will be a fresh post coming along in a few minutes. If you hate iPhone coverage so much, there are a lot of other really amazing sites to read.
But for the thousands, even millions of people who clearly do care a lot about this device, our aim is to provide the information they're after. There is absolutely no question that from a user interest standpoint, more people come to tech sites like Engadget looking for information about the iPhone than for any other device. And at a certain point in any business, be it material or media, supply must attempt to meet demand."
You clearly are not one of the MILLIONS of people so Engadget don't give a dime about your complains.
iPhone non-news are just the Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton of the gadget world. Engadget is the paparazzi that covers their every stupid move ;)
fred @ Jul 11th 2008 9:42AM
"Even the Diamond, which might be the sweetest phone I have ever seen, will not generate a 100th of the hype of this phone. It's sad yes, but Apple's marketing works."
But why shouldn't the diamond, X1 or the Omnia not generate the same hype? Apple hasnt run any ads on this phone, so their entire PR effort has been outsourced, willingly in some cases, to gadget blogs, biased reviewers, and mainstream outlets that are too lazy to do real journalism.
The Instinct did very well on it's own because they made noise, so it isnt just some case of the iPhone just being better than everything else, it's directly tied to publicity and hype.
I guarantee you if sites like this gave the same blanket coverage of, let's say, the X1, their hype meter would be off the charts too. The iPhone, nice and all, is no different than the first one other than a new plastic back and 3G. How on Earth does that constitute all of this hype?
Answer: It doesnt.
axemt @ Jul 11th 2008 9:44AM
@ patsy
Patsy, let me quote @ Ryan Block (hey, nice reply btw, I didn't know we were still in high school)
"No clue why anyone sees the need to complain. Fine, we get it, some people don't care about the iPhone. And for you there will be a fresh post coming along in a few minutes. If you hate iPhone coverage so much, there are a lot of other really amazing sites to read.
But for the thousands, even millions of people who clearly do care a lot about this device, our aim is to provide the information they're after. There is absolutely no question that from a user interest standpoint, more people come to tech sites like Engadget looking for information about the iPhone than for any other device. And at a certain point in any business, be it material or media, supply must attempt to meet demand."
You clearly are not one of the MILLIONS of people so Engadget don't give a dime about your complains.
iPhone non-news are just the Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton of the gadget world. Engadget is the paparazzi that covers their every stupid move ;)
Frank Furter @ Jul 11th 2008 9:48AM
So, patsy, how do you like your new iPhone?